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100 TV Shows-#13-Sherlock (BBC)


All My Sherlock fic

The most recent of my post-Jack Harkness British TV fandoms, where every show seems to lead to another one (Dr. Who to Life On Mars to State of Play etc etc) and you're generally lucky to have a 1/4 degree of separation between shows. I'm genuinely surprised that Marc Warren hasn't shown up, but I'm delighted that John Sessions did, thereby connecting Sherlock to QI. How cool is that? (ETA-Of course they didn't need Johnny for that, since Gatiss also did one QI appearance, but Session is one of my favorite Brits anyway going back to the original Whose Line.)

I watched the first series when they were shown as part of Masterpiece Mystery, although I'd already been hearing about it for weeks in Fandom Land before that. Second series came to me just before the tragic demise of Megaupload, although I did watch again on Masterpiece Mystery, because the only thing that makes Sherlock better is an introduction by Alan Cummings.

My top ten unpopular, or just possibly weird opinions about Sherlock.

1. My favorite cross-fandom moment: when Keith Olbermann mentioned Sherlock including referring to the perfection of Benedict Cumberbatch's name.

2. In spite of writing John/Sherlock and seeing the shippiness inherent in the pairing, I wouldn't say I ship it. And I feel very sorry for the shinier breed of tin hats. Moff is NEVER going to give you what you want. (Side comment, I do prefer Moff & Gattis' ship-teasing to Guy Ritchie's.)

3. I do ship Sherlock/Sally like burning. Even AFTER Reichenbach.

4. Reichenbach did not make me cry. Or even think about crying. PU-Lease.

5. I love Russell Tovey, but Baskerville was shit.

6. I have NO PROBLEMS with how Irene Adler was portrayed.

7. I believe Sherlock genuinely cared about Irene AND wanted her.

8. I will never blame Mycroft. For anything. I want Sherlock to get total come-uppance for being a dick to him.

9. Rupert Graves is a zillion times hotter than Benedict Cumberbatch and Martin Freeman put together, even if they were in handcuffs and stripped naked. TBH, I find Martin Freeman to be one of the least sexy men on the planet, which may contribute heavily to my lack of John/Sherlock shipping.

10. Team Moriarty!


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May. 2nd, 2012 03:58 am (UTC)
I wouldn't call #9 unpopular or even that weird - I agree with you! Mind you, I also agree with #7 and probably #6 too.

I do like Martin Freeman as Watson, but I don't find him in the least bit sexy and I prefer Benedict Cumberbatch when he's ginger...

And just because... have one of my fave RG pics (from a series called Case Sensitive)

May. 2nd, 2012 05:40 am (UTC)
Thanks for the support. I do see a lot of RG love out there on Tumblr but also so seriously rabid Cumberbitches who will lose their shit if your imply their boy isn't Mr. Perfect.
May. 2nd, 2012 12:28 pm (UTC)
BC is nowhere near perfect. He's striking, I'll give the Cumberbitches that, but he most certainly isn't good looking in a traditional way. He does have nice freckles though and that's never a bad thing imo.

I'll have RG any day, and any way I can get him! :D
May. 2nd, 2012 06:44 pm (UTC)
I think he is very much the flavour of the week and there's something in the blatant ship-teasing that was like cat-nip to a certain breed of migratory slash fan. Which is almost too bad, because the show is so well done in really interesting and subtle ways that I think are being somewhat overlooked by the fangirl contingent. There's so much MORE to Sherlock than "pretty boys" and I wonder if even Moff and Gattis KNOW that they're burying their own lead a bit. *ponders*
May. 2nd, 2012 05:23 am (UTC)
I agree heartily with #6
May. 2nd, 2012 05:42 am (UTC)
I honestly think people were primed to hate her and how it was written no matter WHAT happened. If it had been done completely differently, you'd be hearing the same bullshit. I think throwing any woman who might actually mean something to Sherlock into the mix was going to provoke major freaking out. Which may be why Moff did it.
May. 2nd, 2012 06:09 am (UTC)
I haven't watched Sherlock. Which makes me feel like the only person in the UK who hasn't. Part of the reason, I guess, is that Benedict Cumberbatch really, really, REALLY freaks me out. I do not really want to watch him in anything, ever.

But I do like free stuff, so I have to admit, I have sent off for Series 1 with my free tokens from the Daily Mail. That was about 3 months ago, and they said it would be up to 90 days for delivery, so I'm guessing scary Cumberbatch will be landing on my doorstep pretty soon, and then I'll just have to pluck up the courage to watch him.
May. 2nd, 2012 06:13 am (UTC)
It's hard to imagine anything good coming out of the Daily Mail, BUT the show itself is amazingly well-done, and I think finding BC physically repulsive actually works well for the interpretation of the character and keeps you from falling into a welter of slash-shippiness that can only lead to disappointment. Give it a go and let me know what you think.
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May. 2nd, 2012 08:35 am (UTC)
Any time a character is set up as a butt of jokes pretty much from their first moment on screen, I start looking for their good side. The minute Sherlock made the crack about her and Anderson, I immediately started coming up with scenarios to put Sherlock and Sally together. I think they're a perfect hate!sex pairing. I know I'm being contrary, but I just resent the attempted manipulation of being told who I should hate. Bonus points for the "worst person" being a Woman of Color, so I also wanted to redeem for that reason.
May. 2nd, 2012 11:33 am (UTC)
Guh, Rupert Graves is very hot, in a different way than Cumberbatch's and Freeman's looks. Have you seen pics from when he was a teen? ADORABLE. I love his Lestrade. "Try not to punch him."

*chuckles* As for Russell Tovey, I started watching Being Human after Sherlock, so I didn't get to see his awesomeness before he was in Baskerville.

I love Mycroft. Period. Gatiss is brilliant with the role.

I need Sherlock icons.
May. 2nd, 2012 06:51 pm (UTC)
Russell turns up in all sorts of interesting places. He was Midshipman Alonso Frame in Voyage of the Damned on Doctor Who (and also the Doctor's parting gift to Jack Harkness) and he was in Ashes to Ashes in one of my least favorite episodes.

RG was an excellent baddie in an episode of Wallender AND had a great part in "Made in Dagenham," which I highly recommend if you haven't seen it yet.
May. 3rd, 2012 05:21 am (UTC)
In case you haven't seen this: http://yfrog.com/z/ny50lhij
May. 2nd, 2012 02:21 pm (UTC)
God, I love Sherlock. I agree with 2, 6, 7, and possibly 9. Sometimes I think Cumberbatch is super attractive, other times not. It's partly his voice that gets me. I can't ship John/Sherlock at all - I just don't think Martin Freeman is attractive and I need to feel some minimal amount of attraction to both actors to ship it. Although I do enjoy Sherlock fic that's er, not too sexy.

I have no idea what goes on in Sherlock fandom. The episode with Irene is one of my favorites. Do people not like her? I'm working on a multifandom vid about women characters and I'm including her. Oh well, if that's a fandom no-no, *shrug*.

I'm always amused at the fact that British shows always have at least one actor you know from another show.
May. 2nd, 2012 07:09 pm (UTC)
There are only five actors in all of the UK. Prove it by watching an old episode of Poirot and I guarantee SOMEONE with a Whovian or other connection will turn up in at least one part.

There are two schools of Irene-hatred. There's the Heterophobic slash fans who hate her for being beautiful and can't stand the idea that Sherlock was attracted (even though he had to be for John's jealousy to mean anything) and slag off the character as "badly written" or something nastier. The other side claims that they only hate how the character was written because it's further "proof" of Moffat's misogyny. Therefore they hate Irene because was (surprise) badly written and made to fall in love with Sherlock, and what's worse had to be rescued by him thereby taking away her "agency". Blah blah blah.
May. 3rd, 2012 12:10 am (UTC)
That also goes for Marple as much as Poirot - though so far the record has to be: Burn Gorman, Gugu Mbatha-Raw, Bryan Dick (Adam in Torchwood) and Camille Coduri in Ordeal By Innocence. Burn's character was also having an affair with Camille's which gave me odd Owen/Jackie ideas, I have to admit. Plus the first three were adopted/foster siblings.

There was also Jane Seymour as their mother, and several other British Fan Magnets including Richard Armitage as yet another of the siblings, and Denis Lawson.
May. 4th, 2012 06:31 pm (UTC)
Bryan Dick is awfully close to Marc Warren in the "turns up in everything British" sweepstakes.

There should really be some Drinking Game variation for watching these shows. Shots for Who-verse connections, Harry Potter appearances, and a chug if someone has done more than one episode of Midsommer Murders, Lewis (or Morse for older actors) or any of the Agatha Christie adaptations.
May. 6th, 2012 04:28 am (UTC)
I only know of Torchwood and Blackpool (with several more of the usual suspects).

There should. I do believe Bill Nighy requires a "finish the bottle" having done Who, HP and Love, Actually (which is apparently another thing people include). Timothy Dalton wins for Who and one of the Christies with Carey Mulligan (I think).
Mar. 7th, 2013 11:34 pm (UTC)
I know this post is almost a year old, but after seeing your Torchwood post I thought I'd check to see if you've covered Sherlock, given I've spent a huge amount of time recently watching the show.

Two things for now (it's 11.30pm): Yes, I do need to screencap Rupert Graves in Maurice (I think he was about 22 when it was filmed?) cos I keep trying to imagine Lestrade naked. Also, Una Stubbs! I think her role here has set the seal on her National Treasure status, also it must be her first regular TV role since the 1980s.
Mar. 8th, 2013 05:11 pm (UTC)
IMDB says the lovely Una has been working consistently including a few series. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0835939/
Perhaps I need to look into Fern: Sheepdog Tales. Of course my favorite Una thing is her connection to Sir Cliff. I do love her as Mrs. Hudson, although I didn't appreciate Sherlock snapping at Mycroft on her behalf, because I will never blame Mycroft.

I find the current rabid-fangirlness for the next series kind of hilarious considering how much the slash girls are likely to be disappointed.
Mar. 8th, 2013 07:04 pm (UTC)
Thanks, looking now at IMDb she seems to have returned to Children's TV in the years preceding Sherlock, I had seen her appearances on The Catherine Tate Show though. I never saw Worzel Gummidge cos for some reason we weren't allowed to watch it as children, so I mostly remember her from Give Us A Clue.
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