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Oh the line forms on the right babe....

to tell me I was wrong!

SF Giants-World Champions!

Barack Obama-RE-ELECTED!!!!


I will sleep better tonight than I have in MONTHS!


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Nov. 7th, 2012 06:38 am (UTC)
I literally sobbed with relief. I'm with you, I will sleep well. And it'll be so nice NOT to see all those damned ads and get those stupid mailers!

Nov. 7th, 2012 08:01 am (UTC)
Thanks to Florida for sending Alan Grayson back to Congress and (hopefully) ditching Alan West!

Relief is the feeling...four year ago, euphoria, tonight, just sheer relief.
Nov. 7th, 2012 06:28 pm (UTC)
Last I heard, Florida's electorial college results were still up in the air. Why?! Why is it always US?!

Nov. 8th, 2012 03:10 am (UTC)
STILL no call. I love you guys! Let's face it, you are SO diverse....you've got the Cubans, you've got the old Jews. You've got Alan West screaming for a recount and Allen Grayson and his wacky flip-charts coming back. Whooooo-hooooo!
Nov. 8th, 2012 05:37 am (UTC)
Let's not forget the rednecks---but fortunately, they don't cluster around the I-4 corridor or the major population centers.

Nov. 8th, 2012 05:59 am (UTC)
Nov. 7th, 2012 07:14 am (UTC)
Nov. 7th, 2012 08:01 am (UTC)
Time for some happy-dancing.
Nov. 7th, 2012 10:02 am (UTC)
WRONG! You were WRONG!

Nyeah Nyeah Nyeah Nyeah!

Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong!!!!

And more WRONG!

And Oh Thank God that you were!!!!
Nov. 8th, 2012 03:11 am (UTC)
Please sir, may I have another?
Nov. 8th, 2012 03:14 am (UTC)
I am letting my inner-little sister enjoy dancing around and going "MiMi was WRONG! MiMi was WRONG! Meeer-eee-ammmmm Annnnn Rogow was WRONG WRONG WRONG!!!!"

Nov. 8th, 2012 03:27 am (UTC)
Snoopy joins you in the dancing!
Nov. 7th, 2012 11:39 am (UTC)
sleeping peacefully obama, posted rose_cat lj 11-6-12
Nov. 8th, 2012 03:23 am (UTC)
Awwwwwww! So cute. Happy Obama kitties.
Nov. 7th, 2012 01:32 pm (UTC)
Nov. 8th, 2012 10:26 pm (UTC)
*Hugs and kisses*
Nov. 7th, 2012 02:43 pm (UTC)
And I'm sure, in this case, you were MORE THAN HAPPY to be wrong. Thrilled, even. :)

Nearly every race/vote, I was watching went the way I was hoping. Obama won, Akin and Murdouck both lost, both MN's amendments got shot down, a great day. A great day!
Nov. 8th, 2012 03:27 am (UTC)
Not as euphoric as 2008, but such a freaking relief.
Nov. 7th, 2012 07:00 pm (UTC)
THANK GOD. *happy dance with you*

Bad enough I'm stuck with Stephen Harper up here. North Amercia entirely ruled by Conservatives? KILL ME NOW.

So thank the Lord that it didn't happen.
Nov. 8th, 2012 10:25 pm (UTC)
Although it would be hilarious if ALL the conservatives who INSIST ED they would leave if Obama got re-elected actually did head up there and discovered just how less-than-conservative it really is. Apparently some of them were also threatening to decamp to New Zealand of all places.
Nov. 9th, 2012 04:10 pm (UTC)
We don't want 'em! *closes borders with a clang*

Seriously, though, I think they would NOT be happy, as our federal parties are generally not as polarized as yours. (Unlike my provincial parties, which are about as polarized as you can get, given the whole question of Quebec separation and such. *shakes head at teh crazy*)

Also, apparently we are socialist, given our medicare system. BTW, when did socialism become the new communism? Because I don't remember getting that memo! *rolls eyes*

Yes, please go to New Zealand. Go AS FAR AWAY FROM US AS POSSIBLE, KTHXBI.
Nov. 9th, 2012 05:38 pm (UTC)
The problem is that to really understand the shadings of Communism, Socialism, Progressiveism, Trotsky-ism, Stalinism, etc. you actually have to know history and understand philosophy and it's just so much easier to hurl scary sounding epithets at people who are trained to react in the most Pavlovian way possible.

I'm sure the Kiwis don't want them either.
Nov. 10th, 2012 09:26 pm (UTC)
you actually have to know history and understand philosophy and it's just so much easier

*snort* Yeah, too much like work, eh?

I'm sure the Kiwis don't want them either.

LOL. Yeah, I'm sure they have standards... *wink*
Nov. 7th, 2012 07:23 pm (UTC)
The first thing I did this morning was turning the tv on the news... I believe you're so happy you were wrong !
Nov. 8th, 2012 03:44 am (UTC)
SO HAPPY! I went out last night still sure we were going to lose. And everyone was looking at me like I was nuts...and I guess they were
Nov. 7th, 2012 08:52 pm (UTC)
Obama you're so fine you're so fine you blow my mind
Obama! (clap clap clap clap)
Obama! (clap clap clap clap)
Nov. 7th, 2012 08:53 pm (UTC)
Hold on while I get my cheer-leading uniform and Pom-poms.
Nov. 8th, 2012 01:38 am (UTC)
Congrats from across the pond!
I feel so cheeky talking about how happy I am re: the US election results considering, well, I'm not American, but anything that happens over there affects us over here too, and Obama is, indeed, so fine he blows my mind, so here goes anyway. :)

Is it OK to ask a couple of questions re: the electoral process, though? I iz a dumb European and I iz so confused that even Wikipedia seems too complex to me here:

I understand the general process: electoral college, which makes swing states decisive in tight races, the popular vote mattering less than getting the right states - the general idea.

But I don't really know by heart how many votes each state has, so every four years I have to reeducate myself on The Swing States That Matter. And last night as the results came in (up until dawn watching the elections, that was the level of commitment here!), all the commentators banged on about Ohio (mostly) & Co., reminding us of how many votes each candidate would get, and I couldn't help but notice California's FIFTY-FIVE votes, Pennsylvania's twenty, and so on, and no-one seemed to even consider the possibility of the Republicans taking California.

I realise some states are deeply pro-Democrat/pro-Republican and simply will not budge in ideology - is California one of these cases, and therefore a state where no amount of time/money/effort would have worked for Romney? Because, as an outsider, I can help but think between Cal., New York and Penn. (which, I think Romney was making a move for at one point...?), either candidate would have been halfway there, and then the pressure would be off a bit. For Romney, it would mean just getting Texas and a couple of smaller (re: votes) states on top of the trio. They sound like they would have been worth REALLY GOING FOR IT. Are these three states deeply pro-Dem in the way, say, Texas seems to be deeply pro-Republican? At one point I thought it could be because of time zones - ie., by the time California's results came in, enough states would have been called for either side that the winner would be clear. Yet in 2000 the big decision-maker was Florida, after every other state had been called and recalled, and this time everyone kept talking about just how tight the race was and bringing up the NEED for Ohio, and I couldn't quite grasp why, out of every larger state, Ohio's 18 votes were just that essential (minus the traditional detail of Ohio apparently always voting for the ultimate winner); particularly considering Florida was leaning both ways all night (still is...?) and it provided far more votes...

In short:
Why the immense importance of Ohio re: all other swing states, apart from the traditional winner-picker thing?
Why the (apparent) lack of focus on California from the Republicans (and NY, did they campaign hugely there?)?

Tangentially, I've been looking at the online reports, and would I be correct in thinking Romney may have got the popular vote (like Al Gore in 2000 but by a larger margin)? Coming from a continent-wide culture of "popular vote=winner", I sometimes still struggle with the concept of an electoral college, but I have to say, selfishly, if this system got Obama a second term I support it, because I find Romney very unsettling. However, it's a bit dispiriting to think that, regardless of Obama's win, the majority of the population actually wanted Romney instead...

Regardless, congrats on Obama's second term, and here's hoping he'll be and do all you need and hope for!
Nov. 8th, 2012 04:57 am (UTC)
Re: Congrats from across the pond!
The number of Electoral Votes per state is the number of Congressional seats plus the two Senate seats and the number of congressional seats is based on population.

As you say, some states are either Red or Blue and will never change (although Obama got some surprising states last time around). If you look at the maps, it tends to break between the coasts and the "heartland." (California HAS conservative areas, but tends to go Blue and Romeny wrote it off early.) And then there are the "swing states" which is why this year was all about Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida and why tonight, nearly 24 hours later, they STILL haven't called Florida. (OH FLORIDA, home of old liberal Jews and generally conservative Cubans.)

Although it is possible to have a candidate winning the popular, but not the Electoral College (possibly what happened in 2000) that most emphatically did not happen this time. It wasn't an overwhelming margin, but it was emphatic.
Nov. 10th, 2012 12:28 am (UTC)
Re: Congrats from across the pond!
Oooh, I didn't know that about the formula for Electoral Votes! Although now I'm confused as how someone can ever win the popular vote and not the election, seeing as both are so deeply tied. The whole process is a lot clearer now, though. Thanks!

SO glad to hear I was wrong about Romney potentially winning the popular vote. And contrary to what a crazy person on the internet said (not to me) the other day, it's not because me and my European ilk want to keep America down and therefore support the person s/he considers to be the most mediocre president - we actually do want America to keep going strong, because if you sink, we sink along with you. A tough concept for some people, I suppose. And also, Obama's one of the few appealing high-flying politicians out there. It's NOT THAT HARD to support him.

On a different electoral note, I know Fox News is ultra-Red on a whole special level, and I understand it's the right platform for someone like him, but Bill O'Reilly is an absolutely repellent excuse for a human being. The things he said on election night should qualify as criminal hate speech, they really, actually should. To this day, I'm surprised about that one time he actually defended Ellen DeGeneres (I think it was re: an endorsement...?). But I suppose even a broken clock is right twice a day...
Nov. 10th, 2012 05:27 pm (UTC)
Re: Congrats from across the pond!
Here's the thing about Fox...it's a marketing ploy. Yes, there are SOME "true" idealogues there and I'm sure the sad faces on election night were absolutely real....but in the end, it's about making money and being entertainers. Billo says a lot of outrageous, obnoxioius things, but he's also willing to go on the Daily Show and he has populist underpinnings, rather than fascist ones.

Murdoch is an evil scumbag, no question, but it's all about money and ratings. They've found a formula that works and unfortunately we do believe in our First Ammendment here, so we can't just walk in and shut them down, but it sometimes helps to remember, that a certain number of them are just saying what the audience wants to hear. Which may be how so many of them deluded themselves with that whole "Romney landslide" thing.

One reason you could theoretically get the discrepancy between the popular vote and electoral college has to do with distribution of populations even in the big EC states. That's why Florida is always so crazy---in fact I think we STILL don't have a call. You have massive population centers within the state that can go different ways. The Jewish vote will probably stay with the President, but the Cuban vote will NEVER go for him. (Yes, we're still fighting the battles of 1960 and 1961, as well as still fighting the Civil War.)
Nov. 11th, 2012 12:38 pm (UTC)
Re: Congrats from across the pond!
Ooh, that makes a lot of sense re: distribution of population. Thanks! It"s all slowly coming together in my mind, yay. And congrats to Pres Obama on getting Florida as well. Fingers crossed his high numbers keep the amount of empty legitimacy contesting down (although that was never a huge issue after the results for this particular election started coming in, right?).

I should clarify, in my defence, that I wouldn't dream of waltzing in and shutting down Fox News - or anyone else - because they disagree with my views. Pretentiously paraphring Voltaire, "I disagree with his view, but I'll fight to the death for his right to voice it, etc.". Perhaps not to the death, in Fox News' case - but free speech is hugely important here, too, even if we don't call it First Ammendment. Some things cross the line, though, although the right of opinion generally trumps authority outrage even if it's something like what O'Reilly said - also, I suspect the authorities want to save their outrage for something that might actually bring immediate harm to the population rather than Donald Trump's first reaction to Obama's win (which someone said could be classified as treason, and maybe it could, but it WAS, really, just a spoiled rich man ranting).

I mean, in short, although I disagree with their views, I wouldn't take away their right to a platform in which to voice them. But the fact that they feel at liberty to voice what undisguisedly amounts to hate speech, and not even strictly ideologically, is dispiriting. In some ways, I think I "prefer" ideological extremists (obviously not the kind that kill people) to populist extremists. Theoretically, they seem easier to see for what they are and hopefully dismiss. Like Trump is an out of touch old racist. But the populists can go on sutly converting people to their ideology, because hey, they're partly doing it for the entertainment value. Those worry me more, honestly.

Sorry, I'm just using US examples - there are more than a few European ones, I just don't think they would make sense to anyone out of the context. Nick Griffin and the Daily Mail, anyone?

Dec. 7th, 2012 06:43 am (UTC)
Re: Congrats from across the pond!
Right now what coverage we're getting of UKIP is from Fox and the right-wing blogosphere, saying it's the British version of the Tea Party and heralding their success...as well as their "persecution" because of the chidren who were removed from home because their parents were in UKIP.
Nov. 8th, 2012 04:23 pm (UTC)
Dancing around the world, I'm sure. I know I'm relieved and happy. Possibly even more than it warrants, but I like feeling good so I don't care!
Nov. 8th, 2012 10:29 pm (UTC)
There'll be swinging, swaying and records playing and DANCING IN THE STREET!
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