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100 TV Shows #66-Numb3rs


Bad Math
Amita Ramanujan (mentions of others, reference to incest)
Too Clever By Half

A Clever Girl
End of the Line
Mission Creep
Don/Charlie-Incest, Underaged sex.
Tears For Spheres
Funny, Familiar Forgotten Feelings
Alan/Margaret. (Please note, this drabble has been remixed)
Handle With Care
Don/Ian, Don/Charlie-Incest
True To Your Code
David/Colby, David/OFC
Better Things
Softly, As I Love You
Charlie, Larry, Don (Implied Don/Charlie-incest)
After Today
Home Truths
So Far Away

I never considered this one of my "invested" shows, but there were times when it managed to piss me off so badly that I must have been more invested than I thought. I told myself I really didn't ship any pairings, but I wrote a lot of angsty Don/Charlie fic during my year of drabbles. I said I didn't care who came and went, but I really disliked the chick who played the token girl FBI agent in the last season.

Basically I think it was a great premise, originally well handled by Ridley and Tony (RIP) Scott. The "high concept" idea was that FBI Agent Don Eppes had to use his younger brother Charlie's crazy ass math skills to save the day/solve the case on a weekly basis.

Hubby liked the shows procedural qualities enough that we ended up watching every episode even during episodes, arcs and maybe even whole seasons when my reactions veered between bored shitless indifference (any of Don's "romantic" entanglements) or mouth-frothing hatred-Colby's double/triple agent BULLSHIT!

I was never all that impressed with Charlie's angst either and I thought Amita could have done a lot better. But somehow the implications that there was something going on or gone on between Don/Charlie...let's say it's a lot more likely and interesting than those two fugs on the CW that certain folks claim to be obsessed with.

What I generally did like was the "sideline stuff." I came to adore Larry and if i did have a ship it was Larry/Megan. However since the bog-standard procedural aspect always won out, there was occassionally too much "cutsifying" of the (cough cough) CalSci department. My Larry/Megan love is probably why I detest Ms. Curly Top, aside from the fact that in the last two seasons, the writing staff must have twigged to the David/Colby shippers (another pairing that did nothing for me) and started using her as the stand-in for the shippers dispensing fan-service left and right and making me want to slap her upside the head.

Love for Judd Hirsch, but NOT the romance with Kathy Najimy's unbelievable annoying character. Lou Diamond Philip's appearances were fun, but the only thing worse than the double/triple agent plot was obligatory "Internal Affairs Tries to Ruin the Lead's Career" plot, which was a total waste of Keith Carradine.

They did do some fun things with guest casting along the way. Aside from all the obligatory usual suspects, we got Christopher Lloyd (who didn't get a scene with Judd Hirsch, mores the pity) Henry Winkler, Paul Michael Glaser and John Glover.

And yet, with all the bullshit, I was there until the bitter (and stupid) end. Maybe I started out liking the idea of a show that respected smart people and just couldn't let go. Another....and yet---when I was trying to come up with another show from the 2000's that I had something pithy to say about...it took me weeks to remember this one.


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Aug. 12th, 2013 07:39 pm (UTC)
let's say it's a lot more likely and interesting than those two fugs on the CW that certain folks claim to be obsessed with.

LOL. Don't get me started.

I liked Numb3rs. Never got all fangirly over it, but it was fun while it lasted. :)

Aug. 12th, 2013 07:56 pm (UTC)
I wish there had been a better way to tell stories about the use of math and science in crime-fighting than to bury it in the trappings of a typical CBS procedural.
Aug. 14th, 2013 03:19 pm (UTC)
I guess procedurals sell these days...
Aug. 27th, 2013 07:31 pm (UTC)
There's a comforting, but eventually discouraging sameness to them. (One of the many ways that House lost it's way---the medical procedural aspects got to be too formulaic, especially the need to have the POTW reflect something about House or one of the other fellows.)
Aug. 12th, 2013 11:27 pm (UTC)
I watched this, but I let it drift after a while, like I tend to do with procedurals, but I did like the idea of the math to solve crimes part, and liked most of the actors.

I also disagree that both the brothers on the CW are fug. I just wish the one I liked was on a different, better show... kind of frustrated this will be what he's known for.

Lou Diamond Philips! Love him forever. You might enjoy Longmire (he's currently in that) and so might your hubby - state-I-can't-remember sheriff solves murders, has family issues. It could be I'm shipping him with his daughter too...

I had given up on it but I did come back for the episode with James Marsters.

Also I think you've got Rob up there where you mean Don somewhere.
Aug. 13th, 2013 12:25 am (UTC)
Thanks for the catch. It's odd because Rob Morrow was very different as Don than he was back on Northern Exposure, but I don't consider him as having that wide a range.

I might check Longmire if the first series is on Netflix...when and if we ever get through all of Midsomer Murders. I swear, hubby is so obsessed with those, that viewing life is practically on hold otherwise. I had to make a special plea to get that first ep of Broadchurch watched.

Let's say that I'd be willing to give JA a barely passing score if it weren't for horrible DOOL associations, but I find the other one to be genuinely repulsive.

There was a period where it felt like Marsters and David Anders were guest starring on every single procedural on the schedule within weeks of each other.
Aug. 13th, 2013 01:36 am (UTC)
I was actually trying to remember if there was a Rob character you might have been referencing instead.

It's a little slow but it's good. I also am about to respond to the post about Broadchurch.

It's actually that I think he's improved since DOOL that I like him. I remember finding him awfully bland back then, and in more recent stuff pre that show I was getting more into him, and there's quite a few photo shoots even now that I like. But yes. I always liked the Eric character. Of course now he's back - and played by an actor I already liked, the show's been cancelled over here.

I remember that period, yes. I'm not an Anders fan at ALL but I actually did quite like his appearance on Arrow (it was the one on here last week) and I've been quite enjoying his recurring on Once Upon A Time (that MIGHT be the period clothes as Doctor Frankenstein though... even not finding him anything like attractive he carries them off well).

Edited at 2013-08-13 01:37 am (UTC)
Aug. 14th, 2013 02:27 pm (UTC)
I'm not a genius,
but I do relate to Charlie's sense that his brain is a barrier with others.(I'm thinking in my case that I'm kind of surrounded by second-class brains, more than sweeping people away with my own powers, but maybe I covered that during my "Countdown" comments.)
Also, Krumholtz is up there on my list of adorable humans.
I think the problem with the double-agent storyline was wanting to have it both ways...make Colby bad(in theory) while still keeping him there in reserve to be broadshouldered and sympathetic.
Aug. 27th, 2013 07:38 pm (UTC)
Re: I'm not a genius,
I know the feeling, although for me House was the genius I related to, since math has always been danger zone for me. Re: Colby-- I think you're giving them too much credit...it was all cheap melodrama. They were never going to have a regular be a "real" traitor.
Aug. 27th, 2013 08:25 pm (UTC)
Re: I'm not a genius,
If I were not socialized as a woman, I would be a lot like House.
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