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Torchwood babble for End of Days

Includes spoilers and speculation for Series 2 and Dr. Who spoilers for Season 3.



Because I really wanted to use a line from Jesus Christ Superstar for the lj-Cut line, but restrained myself out of deferenced to the unspoiled, if they actually exist.

Now that it's just us behind the cut...sing it with me people:

"So, you are the Christ, you're the great Jesus Christ.
Prove to me that you're divine; change my water into wine.
That's all you need do, then I'll know it's all true.
Come on, King of the Jews."

Anyway, Jack is Jesus. Awesome, Dude!. As I'm reading it Owen is Judas, Gwen is a combination of the Virgin Mary and Mary Magdalene, Ianto is Doubting Thomas, and Toshiko still barely has a plot although her Mum looks very cool.

Man this episode was seriously in-fucking-tense. Lots of action, lots of emotion and there are no words for how much I like it when Jack turns into a snarky wench and bitches out EVERYBODY! Whoooo-hoooo. You go Girl. Or Jack. Or Jesus. Or Whatever. Loved the bit about the "exuberant Roman soldier."

Everybody got at least one great moment including Mr. Creepy, Rhys's butt, Jack's coat, PC Andy (Mulder & Scully, heheh) and the Hand.

Owen, Owen, Owen! You poor, guilt-ridden bastard. Yay you for the House MD reference. Yay you for coming back. I'd hug you, but you already got the best hug of the episode from our Lord and Saviour.

So. I know what you're thinking. Shut the fuck up, Karaokegal What did I think of the kiss?
Wow...Gwen kisses Jack and that's when he...Oh, sorry, that's not what you meant is it? I'd seen it before in fanvids and screencaps and Icons. As much as I hate it, I do agree it means something. But I don't think it necessarily means that much more than that Jack likes to kiss people. Compared to the CJH kiss? Compared to the Rose/Doctor kisses? Compared to Owen's forgiveness hug? Really? Shrug. Sigh. IF TPTB really want me to get off this high-horse, they probably shouldn't have thrown and weepy-face shot in there to remind me why I hate him so much.

And back in my little world of happy denial:
1. Gwen stays with not dead yet!Jack.
2. Gwen gives the "life kiss" and gets the "Thank you."
3. Jack pulls away from kissing Ianto to give Owen his incredibly meaningful and emotional "I forgive you" hug.
4. Jack takes pulls away from Ianto and takes Gwen with him when he's going to fight Abbadon.
5. Jack did not see anything that would tempt him, meaning that he couldn't be lured by an image of...hmmmm IANTO! (CJH: "There's no one.)
6. "The right kind of doctor."
7. Oh, there's the Doctor. Buh bye!
8. EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS IN UTOPIA/TSOD/LOTL.

(Not to mention all the Jack/Gwen in the post-Rhys murder scene including him cleaning off her hand, the struggle/hug, and Ianto possibly giving her the stink-eye.)

Spoilers for Season 2:

Chibnall on the commentary for They Keep Killing Suzie: - "Gwen/Jack is a love story complicated by 17 different things".

Various versions of what we've all heard about the JB/JM scenes, including:

Marsters, who was Buffy's vampire ally Spike, plays Captain John who walks from a rift in time looking like a new romantic gun-slinger.
He wastes no time in dispatching one chap by dropping him off the side of a car park. And then there's a memorable encounter with Captain Jack Harkness, played by John Barrowman.
Facing each other, the pair share a lingering kiss before engaging in some well-choreographed fisticuffs - it's so Women in Love but without the roaring fire or bare bodies.

AND

AE: So how hot are the scenes for this season with James Marsters and you?
JB: I know his quote about it and yes — you will have to finish yourselves off after you watch it. Let's put it this way: It took us twelve hours to film.

Meanwhile:

From : http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/a81072/bloody-torchwood.html

6. Captain Jack is looking to rekindle his relationship with Ianto. Apparently this will be a slow-burner throughout series two.

7. Despite this, Captain Jack is still playing the field. Expect lots of snogging with Captain John in episode one.

Speculation: You don't take a character like Captain Jack and tie him down to any one character, (Hey, you pervs, stop snickering...ok, you can keep snickering if you write some good smut to go with it.) certainly not one who is in my extremely arrogant opinion, a charisma-free zone. So they may throw bones to certain ships, but they're going to hedge their bets as well.



I still can't believe that less than SIX MONTHS ago, I had NOT A CLUE who John Barrowman was. Nada. Nothing. I'd heard of Torchwood, but was brushing off people with, "Sorry, no time for another Fandom. Very busy. All about House." And then timbershiver asked me to look at some pages of a story she was working on and the rest is...obsession. Thanks, sweetie!

And with that...onto the Jack/Ianto angst fic. Stay tuned.
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