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Torchwood-the morning after-some thoughts about torture etc.

In the cold, rainy light of day, a few more thoughts, musings, babblings etc.


One thing I'd really love to know (PLOT BUNNY ALERT!) when Jack said in Countrycide that he was the go-to guy for torture "a long time ago," was he talking about his stint with the time agency or something he did during the time on earth. One of the World Wars? Cold War? Serving the for the US, Britain, as a mercenary?

This season is supposed to be "lighter Jack," but man, he went Medieval on Beth's ass in no small hurry.

Has his year of being at the mercy of the Master and his no doubt, extremely creative mind when it comes to that sort of thing made him more or less likely to inflict it on another human being? He seemed to have a lot of violence YaYas to get out of his system when John showed up. He's always been willing to use violence when necessary, and pretty much ONLY the Doctor can really dissuade him. (And Gwen in Countrycide, make of that what you will.) It's been pointed out by The Original Spy at www.recapist.com that Tosh and Ianto could form a "Jack killed my girlfriend" club.

Moving away from the Jack-centic view, difficult as it is, what exactly are Russell, Chris et al, saying about the use of torture?

I mentioned to hubby that Torchwood isn't big on civil liberties, which of course plays into the whole "outside the government, beyond the police," thing and he said that you can't really talk about "human rights," in this situation. Beth asks for a lawyer and phone call and basically gets a Jack sneer and a mind probe.

Is this supposed to be a critique of the UK and US administrations's policies on torture or is it saying that in the face of an "alien" invasion, these tactics are necessary.

Jack doesn't seem to agree with what we hear a lot, at least on the anti-torture side, which is that it doesn't work. As far as he's concerned, it does.

Am I reading too much into this as a US citizen, given the that the whole "waterboarding" scandal is still a fairly hot-button issue? Does it play differently in the UK?
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